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Manila Travel Report Dated Added: Tue Jul 31 2007 Submitted by: Carter
Before I took my first trip to manila I used this site to do some research and it really helped out, so ill put in my two cents. I’ve been to Manila twice this year, once in January 07' and again in March 07' for my birthday. Manila is heaven for men, the women don’t get any more beautiful and fun loving! I stayed at the City Gardens and Oxford Suites in Makati both basically right on Burgos St. Both good qualities for the price, I like City Gardens better because they have a gym, and a pool and Jacuzzi on the roof which is pretty sweet.The bars on Burgos St are fun and filled with beautiful girls but because it is the heart of the tourist area in Makati, it is a little for expensive for the girls. They try to ask 3,000 peso bar fine but depending what time of night it is and how many drinks you have bought you can get it lower. Then the girls will expect around 2,000 tip the next day. I personally like to go to the EDSA entertainment complex in Pasay, it is about a 10min taxi ride from Burgos St, so not far, maybe 20 in heavy traffic.It is basically a big building with about 8 bars inside, all packed with 30 to 50 girls each, the most notorious being the firehouse. Here the quality is just as good as on Burgos St. Yet the barfine is only 1,000 pesos, and the girls will expect 2,000 to 3,000 pesos the next morning, I tipped 2,500 or 3,000, but I always picked one of the best looking girls, 9's or 10's, and multiple sessions both that night and the next morning/afternoon.Being that I am only 21yrs old and reasonably attractive I would always get lots of attention from all the girls, but any guy who is nice, fun to be around, and respectful can get the hottest girls to open up and do anything you want. In the Complex I always bar fined my girls from bars in the front called The Pitstop, and the Casino I think. But all the bars are good except for the ones upstairs. With each bar having around 50girls there is about 400 to 500 girls in the complex if you can’t find one that is your exact fantasy you are fucked and should just kill yourself.Also I think a better way to get the most satisfaction from your girl and to get her to do anything you want is to not go directly back to your hotel after you bar fine her. Every time I got a girl I would ask her where she wanted to go to drink, or dance, or play pool, or eat something. Spend some time getting to know her first and have some fun, and even though it’s not at all necessary, get her little drunk, and I think you will find that when you do go back to your hotel your experience will be even more pleasant because she will feel comfortable and safe with you.I haven’t been to the LA Cafe but my next trip is in 2 days, AUG.07' so I will check it out and see if it lives up to the hype. I hope my report will be helpful to anyone who is going to the PI in the future and know that Manila is the most fun place I have ever been to. Luckily I live in Guam so it’s only a 3hour cheap flight and like I said, this will be my third trip in 8months, it IS that addicting.(Review # 20348)
Strip Club Review Dated Added: Sun May 20 2007 Submitted by: KennyBI was just in Makati, Easter week and weekend April, 2007. It was so fucking over priced it wasn't funny. Even if the girl meets you outside the club the price is like 3000php. Out of most bars in Makati its $5000php per girl which is a little over $100usd. I did find some rather nice action at the LA Cafe. It was packed with pussy for the picking. I would suggest that place to anyone. The girls I picked (2) only wanted 1000php each, but I gave them 1500php each. They were both hot and from Gensan, which is a very small city on the southern tip of the Philippines. They were ecstatic for the tip. Treat the Filipinas good, they have a rough life just don’t let your guard down. The exchange rate is about 48php per $1 usd. They were great and photo friendly as well. I have never been to ESDA, so some new info on that would be nice. If you need any info on the Philippines, I may be able to help. Here is one word of advice, if you are going there to meet a girl and marry her, and you have never met, you are a fucking fool. (Review # 19029)
Makati Strip Club Review Dated Added: Tue Dec 12 2006 Submitted by: The Bone DoctorStrip clubs in P. Burgos are good, don't get me wrong... I went there and check them out. If you're looking to meet a hot Filipina, go to 66 Internet Cafe where the girls hang out at night. I went there and I always get the girls looking to talk to someone. Although the girls work at some of these bars, they also talk online to foreign guys, bfs, friends so its easy to use the internet and start a friendly conversation. The girls are always friendly and sexy at the internet places around P. Burgos. My advice is to try it. It's cheap and the worst case is u end up simply checking ur emails.As for sabang, that place is another one where u can pick up girls walking around during the day or hanging out at the bars without paying them or bar fines or any of that stuff. So my advice, before burning a hole in ur pocket, meet a girl and tell them ur not there to buy girls... just on vacation looking to enjoy urself. Buy them a drink or ask them to shot some pool. Easy and cheap. I've had really good responses to that. (Review # 16586)
Travel Report Dated Added: Sun Nov 05 2006 Submitted by: AnonI have not been to the Philippines since my Navy days 20 years ago. Then we visited Olongapo City at Subic Bay. It was great then, but, now with a little more experience, The PI is fantastic. Had a few days to spend in Manila and stayed in the Makati area near the Greenbelt, which is a very nice mall. After reading reviews here, I went to the P. Burgos area. It reminded me a little of Olongapo, all bars with girls, street hustlers, etc. The first (and only) place I visited was The Jungle Room. As I entered, I didn't really like the aggressive girls that surrounded me. It reminded me alot like Barcelona. There were probably 50 girls in the place and only a few guys. I had a seat on the wall and was swarmed, getting lap dances, tits in my face, my cock rubbed, etc. Mamasan wanted to know if I wanted a drink and if I wanted to buy ladydrinks. She told me my beer was 150 and the ladydrinds were 350. I had one and bought 3 of the girls a drink. They were all very cute. It's sometimes hard to tell for sure in bar light. I was told that the barfine was 3500. I asked if I could pay 6000 for all 3. It was no problem.I took them back to the hotel and had to check them in as visitors. I was a little worried about that, but, it seems I was the only who cared about it. The hotel is used to it and so are the girls. That was a Friday night, they ended up staying with me most of the next 3 days and bought a friend on the 2nd day. So, for 3 days, it was me and 4 delightful young ladies just having a good time in and out of the room. They are so appreciative of everything I do for them and they show it. The PI is more expensive than I remember it in my Navy days, but, it's also so much better enjoying this fine country semi-sober and not stumbling around drunk like the old days. I will be back, I've been all over the world sampling providers, and the Philippines are still the best. (Review # 16254)
Escort Review Dated Added: Wed Apr 26 2006 Submitted by: TerminMogambo Bar: surrounded by sweet girls and a friendly atmosphere, not many customers on a quiet night. Lady drinks were 300 pesos, own drink 120. With tips a nice 20 minutes of gentle touching and massage at the dance floor for a total expense of 830 pesos. Good experience, no pressure. Rascals: sweet girls and charming dancing and uniforms in a small and intimate atmosphere. Lady drinks 300 pesos, own drinks 130. No particular pressure. Flamingo: large bar with sizable dance floor and many girls. Good atmosphere, prices like in Rascals. Nice girls in Mogambo, but I did not fall from any of them and left after an enjoyable half hour. In Rascals, “Rica” who later revealed her real name, became my chosen companion. Having kindly chased other contenders away, paying only lady drinks for “Rica”, we spent a good hour cuddling and chatting as much as possible through the noise of the music. She persuaded me to “buy” her free. Bar fine was 3000 pesos, and I negotiated 4000 pesos for the rest of my stay, that is, until the next afternoon when my plain left. We first visited “Flamingo” Bar and sat on a back couch, enjoying the pleasure of its others company. From there we went to my hotel room, and “Rica” gave me a great GFE with genuine kissing and good and delightful conversation. We exchanged email addresses, and I cannot imagine that I will return to the Philippines without spending time with her again. (Review # 14559)
Makati Street Action Dated Added: Thu Dec 29 2005 Submitted by: MattyI have been living in the Philippines 75% of the time for the last two years, both in Angeles and in Makati City. I am going to make this to the point because I think most people make this way too hard. I have had so many women that I lost count over a year ago, and there is no reason in the world that you have to pay for a single one of them. I have been stupid and barfined girls from time to time, but most of the time it was in my early days of the Philippines or when I was so drunk I didn't know any better. I even paid one girl because I had been checking her out for five months and finally broke down because I just "had to have it." However, these instances are few and far between.You can go to any local bar and just sit by yourself or with friends and wait until you either spot the one you want or make eye contact with someone. I always begin the conversation very friendly and ask them to join me. They always do, and then I begin my routine. I buy them a drink and compliment them on how beautiful they are. Within about fifteen minutes, I always tell them that I have had a Philippine girlfriend for a few months, but that we are broken up now. This makes them think you are not just there to bang Filipinas and then leave (they think they may have a chance at you). Then I make sure that I interject in the conversation that I would like to take them with me to a few bars around, but that I am not interested in paying for a girl. I tell them that I don't believe in paying for women because I have too much respect for them.They love this, and then they either tell me they don’t want to be paid or are not that kind of girl, or they tell me that they need to move on because they are trying to make a living. I totally understand if they are only interested in making money, and then I tell them that I will pay for their drink, but that I am going to move on because I don't want to waste either one of our time. They have no problem and usually are thankful for the drink and leave happy. I have very rarely gone home alone whenever I was set on finding someone. If you do, then you are not trying. I recommend that you go to Greenbelt and sit outside at one of the bars (I like Cafe Havana), or you can go to P.Burgos and sit outside at Matrix. Remember, most girls on Burgos are prostitutes and want money. However, I have left with quite a few girls there and didn't pay them a cent. Just remember, reiterate that you won't pay for sex so that there is no confusion. Have fun. (Review # 13496)
Manila Strip Club Review Dated Added: Sat Oct 29 2005 Submitted by: Went to Mascara on P. Burgos. Met a gorgeous sweet piece of ass. What a body. Bought a bunch of drinks for the girls, and they loved it. Then took the gorgeous one back to the hotel. Bar fine was 3,000 pesos ($55 US). Gave the girl the same. She stayed overnight. It was fabulous. Gave her some extra and got a cell #. She's definitely game for some more. Great place - Mascara. (Review # 12973)
Makati Strip Club Review Dated Added: Thu Jun 02 2005 Submitted by: Alien in ManilaI have lived in Asia for 20 years, mainly in Thailand, Malaysia and the Philippines. And I have always had a genuine affection for the bar scenes although I don't drink. However, my evening last night was spoiled by the cheating staff at Bottoms Bar in P. Burgos Street Makati. My bill was Peso 1,080 (I had a coke light and bought 3 girls drinks). I handed over two crisp 1,000 Peso notes (I only had 1,000 peso notes on me) and received change for 1,500 peso's. When I pointed out the mistake, I was called a liar so I threw the change on the floor and stormed out! I do not care about the money, it was the principle. I will never visit that bar ever again even though I live directly opposite and I encourage all to avoid. If you want better selection of girls, Firehouse and others at the Edsa Entertainment complex is better value. If you want a gogo bar to yourself, there is a complex of bars opposite the old domestic airport which are full of girls and empty. Drinks are reasonably priced and the girls are not greedy unlike P. Burgos girls who have been spoilt by the Japanese. Have fun and be careful! (Review # 11646)
Manila Travel Report Dated Added: Thu Aug 26 2004 Submitted by: Eddie Garcia
WARNING on current rip-offs and bogus bar bills in Makati.
This appears to have started around June of 2004 and is still going strong in August 2004. I just had one tonight, so I took to writing this letter. I have lived in Makati for about 10 years and regularly frequent the bars on P Burgos.
Recently a string of bars with the same owner has taken to customer rip-offs with padded bills and fraudulent charges, and intentional miscalculations, apparently due to the lack of customers. Consistently over the last 3 months me and my buddies have had similar problems with bogus bills at the following bars (all owned by the same guys). It is suggested that you be VERY CAREFUL at the following bars, or avoid them and go where you will not be cheated:
High Heels; Enchanted, Papillion; Montana, Fridays and Ivory. We have had drinks added, bogus signatures and intentional miscalculation of the proper charges. When the management was informed they gave bullshit stories and they just get repeated. It has become pretty ugly and it would be most prudent to scrutinize your bill carefully, check the addition and the signatures. Most importantly, just do not patronize them and go where you will be treated fairly. It gets rather ugly and ruins a great night to have to fight with these fuck heads. All of the bars have beautiful girls so you will not be missing anything by boycotting the ones that are cheats. (Review # 9979)
Manila Escort Review Dated Added: Sat Apr 24 2004 Submitted by: AnonHi, I had my 1st visit to Manila, Philippines last week and would like to share with you my personal experience there.1st of all, I spent an incredible night having gorgeous sex with an AFF (aduldfriendfind.com) chick that I managed to actually meet up while in Manila. Thanks to AFF, she's not a pro but just a 21-yr old student eager for sex in exchange for any small gift. That's exactly what am looking for. It was an exciting experience for me as we planned on yahoo messenger for the meetup weeks before I came to Manila. She came to my hotel room, had great sex with me without rubber and she even requested taking photos and videos which I did!!! She is hot and really enjoys sex and, boy, when she's on top, her tight pussy can screw you so well that she can take you to heaven! I really came together with her and blew the full load inside her. How can any other commercial sex with condom be in the same class?? We also went out to do some small shopping and had coffee at Starbucks with some small and intelligent talks. She actually comes from a mid-class family and is one of the top students at the University of Philipines (the #1 public univ in Manila they say), so our talks also had intelligence and chemistry. She's absolutely cool in carrying conversations. I did not give her money, but a 2nd-hand cell phone, and also a cheap webcam I picked up at airport. She seemed very happy about that instead of cash!! I would rate her 6 on the looks, 8 on the body and 10 on sex skills openness to sex!!! I actually made a few contacts on AFF and all seemed to be eager to meet up with me, but only this one is most open and sexy, and sent me lots of sexy private pix when we chat online. So I picked her. So friends, I highly recommend checking out on AFF first before you go to Philippines! It's worth it even if you have to pay a small fee to become Silver member in order to initiate contact to other AFF members online. Besides the AFF experiences, I had mixed experiences in the following nights. Let me just provide a brief summary for those who're new. 1. Massage services: really suck. not many can be found on yellow pages unless you have close local friends who have other clues. I picked up one named "Beautiful Lady", they sent 2 girls to my room, both seemed worn-out and very tired. I asked one to stay behind for a massage but when she undressed, I wasn't aroused at all and I had to send her home. I paid 3000 pesos for inviting that! a waste of money and time. 2. LA cafe: I only had time to check this site out one night after reading so many great reviews on WSG about it. Well, although I think the place is worth a visit, I think most of you may find it under expectation in general. It's located in a narrow street in Manila, about 20-minute taxi drive from my hotel in Makati. No admission on 1st level. What we entered was a scene fully packed with girls, but mostly pros though also some fresh-looking girls ... 80% to 90% rated 4-6, only 2 or 3 in my view look pretty and above 7. Quality of the girls surely do not match the quantity! Expats drinking watching shows/TVs or playing the pools, some westerners but mostly Koreans, etc. 2nd floor was bikini and erotic dancing event taking place for the night when I was there, but you need to pay a small 150 pesos for admission. Positives: a lot of girls (you could interact, intensive and close environment, and great music. Negatives: you mostly find ugly and low-class chicks here as this is a free entry site. Also they say some girls can be dangerous as their health status not managed by dance clubs. Good-looking ones may be found on 2nd flr right side room where they say is the Korean's sphere of influence. Also you may see some mama-san around who manages the some group of the girls, which I don't like. I did not take any action there and just left after finishing some drinks. A mama-san tried to approach me but I declined. I asked my taxi driver local to contact 1 or 2 nice-looking girl, but they apparently are busy or are already with boyfriends. Given its special setting and my limited time there, I would still be interested in going there again perhaps once more, before I draw my final conclusion. But overall my experience there is just 5 out of 10. Under expectation. 3. Dance club: mixed quality. I suggest you really get an experienced local to take you around instead of swinging blindly. But most of them are friendly, open, safe, but some could be costly. You get invited sitting on tables viewing girls erotic dancing on stage one after another, and you can choose as you view them on stage, or behind window as they sit in a room. In one place they charge 900+ pesos for each girl's drink when you requested her to come sit with you for a fondling and small talk, which I think is a bit pricy. However I did go to a particular club (unfortunately I didn't write down the name but will try to get it later for future visits) where an experienced local showed me. Girls rated 6-10. Great music and drinks. I saw this slender sexy lady dancing on stage...her look and body is drop-dead 10, my local friend waved to her to indicate I liked her...guess what, she just came down straight from the stage, sat herself on my face and sex dance for the next few minutes, and place my hands on her sexy tits! My friends then ordered a VIP room a few sexy girls to come by. All great ones, and free for you to touch most part of their body. We enjoyed singing some karaoke and drinking for the night, but we did not take further actions that night other than just fondling/kissing and having some light fun. Ended up only about 2400 pesos for 4 of us visitors for 4 hours! (although I think that's because my local friend knows the manager of the club) I would surely go back to that same place next time and negotiate the girl I love to be out with me! The last night I ended up in another club that my hotel taxi driver took me. We came in quite late, past 2am, but only 2 or 3 girls fit my type out of the 20 or so sitting behind the window. And those good ones were already busy with other guests. In summary I would suggest you go to one of these best suggested dance clubs from a local, and go there a bit early (around 10pm or 11pm or so). Hopefully negotiate a good deal of actions with your ideal girl either in the VIP room or outside back to your hotel. Rules seem different in different clubs. In some club, girls seem very obliged and I assume they would go out with you up one your request and $. But in others, some girls might not want to go outside with you depending on whether they like you or not. I got the experience that one hot girl I fancy just would not like to go out, but only would stay in VIP room at the club. (Review # 8933)
Escort Review Dated Added: Fri Jan 31 2003 Submitted by: SirHumpsAlotP Burgos rocks! I go to Makati about every other month and it is always a little different. In November, Bottoms had the most smoking girls and club (newly remodeled) complete with professional dancers. This month there is a new club just across the street from The Oxford hotel (a good place to stay by the way) called “Billboards”. ~~
~~Billboards and Bottoms have the same owners, but Billboards has the most beautiful babes on P Burgos right now. Just around the corner from Billboards is a new small club “Shampoo” where the waitresses wear bunny ears. Hell, I would even do the Mamasan, (Mommy Tess).~~
~~However, if you want to spend less money for almost the same quality of girls, go to the EDSA complex (Firehouse to be exact). If you look hard enough, you can score some real winners over there. I did! Just buy Mamasan a drink and ask her about any girl you are interested in. They have never steered me wrong yet and I have extract 7 girls from that club on different visits. Bar Fine is only 1,000 Pesos or $18.60 as of today.~~ (Review # 6782)
Makati, Manila, Angeles and Cebu Travel Report Dated Added: Sun Dec 29 2002 Submitted by: cebujeffI have the pleasure of living half time in the Philippines and am there 2-3 weeks per month.~~I travel out of Manila frequently and enjoy Cebu and other islands.~~~~I live in Makati and frequent all of the bars regularly including Manila and Pasay.~~Quezon City is also a hot spot and not often mentioned. I have traveled all over Asia and most of the world. ~~~~Clearly the Philippines is better than all of the other places. Where else can you find beautiful women and girls that will treat you like a king and indulge your every fantasy with smiles and orgasms.~~
~~I am not a kid and it never ceases to amaze me that the ladies here get into the sex so much. Most do not think of themselves as whores and are actually very sweet.~~~~On Burgos try the new Papilion and ask mama Sandra to get you something special and nice or pick your own. I go there regularly and get laid and sucked off in the VIP room by 2 or 3 girls. The girls here are currently the best on the street.~~
~~Bottoms is good but no private area so you have to go out and upstairs with them. Lots of cute things go through here.~~~~There are three new clubs opening in the next few weeks (just what we need).~~
~~Pasay is MUCH cheaper and some nice girls, but the best are in Burgos and Quezon City.~~
~~Angeles is like Disneyland for adults and very cheap. There are some fine girls but not as many as would be expected. A must weekend. You will limp home.....~~
~~Cebu has lots of girls and they are beautiful. I love Cebuanas, and they are so low maintenance on the pocketbook..... and so sweet and tender...~~~~
~~I go back the 5th and cannot wait to be in bed with a beautiful young brown beauty with skin of silk and a smile and sexual appetite to make me die.~~~~ (Review # 6613)
Manila, Makati Escort Review Dated Added: Thu Nov 07 2002 Submitted by: wandererGuide to Manila and Makati~~
~~There are several major areas for entertainment in the city. There are also a good many more outside these areas but they tend to be more low quality, with uneven mixture of quality employees and facilities. These tend to be frequented more by locals, and also tend to employ some staff of dubiously young age. My recommendation is to stick with the listings I will give you here and you will have no problems.~~
~~The main area for business travelers to stay is in Makati. This is about 20 minutes from the airport when there is light traffic. Be forewarned, do NOT arrive in Manila on Wednesday night between 5 pm and 11 pm, as there is a major weekly church service near the main airport route which can result in excessively long travel times.~~
~~Luckily or in coincidence, Makati is close to all the main action as well with exception of the high class karaoke bars. So staying in Makati is a good choice. Some business travelers also stay in Ortigas, about 20 minutes from Makati. It is not so convenient so if you have a choice, stay in Makati.~~
~~I will quote all rates in PHP pesos. The rate is about 6 pesos to a HKD~~
~~Start off notes - Tricks of the Trade~~
~~First the tricks of the places, in general all places (except karaoke bars) will do this to better or worse degrees so be forewarned in all places. ~~
~~a. The mama will try to sit you in a table, if you are alone she will try to sit you in a bench or hidden room near a secluded area of the bar with lots of empty seats. She will then bring over lots and lots of girls who will all sit around you and either explicitly ask for a drink or wait until mama tries to get you to buy them all drinks. If this happens to you look around the bar and the girls near you and decide if there is one that you are interested in, then get her to sit next to you and see if you hit it off with her. (See "hitting it off' down below). Do NOT BUY any drinks for a girl until you find one you 'hit it off' with. Most importantly, do not get suckered into buying a drink for more than one girl at the table. ~~
~~b. If you walk into a place with lots and lots of prospects, and the mama is hovering around you, it pays a bundle to buy mama a drink first and get on the right foot with her. If you buy mama a drink she will generally be much less pushy on trying to pile lots of ladies drinks on you and will listen to your preference for what you want in a girl and will make suggestions. Show her the appearance of one you like and tell her the personality and the type of performance you expect/prefer, and she will recommend some to you.~~
~~c. ladies drinks. ALL the gogo bars have ladies drinks, and these drinks are normally 2-3x times the price of a normal drink for you. Typically this is between 200 and 300 pesos. If you buy a girl a drink she will get a cut of this, normally between 50-85 pesos. This is the primary source of income for the girls, and SOME of the bars. Bars that rely on ladies drinks for their profits will be very pushy and you will quickly find your wallet drained. Note that a ladies drink price only applies for drinks for a lady that works in the bar. If you bring your own lady with you (which IS allowed and IS very common), your cost for a drink for your own escorted lady in the bar is normal price. ~~
~~d. Barfines. Barfines ranges dramatically depending on the place. Barfines can be a small inconvenience or a major expense depending on what you do. A bar fine in general will allow the girl to leave the bar with you. Once you pay the bar, the girl is off duty, although if you STAY in the bar with her, they will still charge her drinks at ladies drink prices, in general get her out of there fast, otherwise she will get you to buy drinks for her friends at high ladies drink prices. The bar fine allows her to leave, but it does not necessarily mean she is going to stay long with you. I have had a ‘runners’ in the past meaning a girl who goes with you to another bar and disappears (worse case, happened once), or one who says she will go with me for long time to hotel, but when get there she tells you she is leaving after you finish. In general try to make sure you are clear with her before you take her out that she must stay long time (if you want that) or she gets no money. Make sure you explain what time in the morning or next day you consider long time. For most girls, a long time will extend until about 9 or 10 am. Sometimes if you find a girl who likes you and also if she sees a repeat business opportunity, you may find she stays with you indefinitely. In most bars the girl get a small portion of the bar fine but they will RARELY IF EVER admit to this. Note that in virtually all clubs, if you bar fine the girl she MUST report to work the next night or she will have to pay her own bar fine the following night. This means if you really want someone for the whole week DO NOT BARFINE Her. Tell her your intention and arrange to meet her outside work, either (a) come to your hotel after she finishes work (4am in most cases) or (b) meet next night. This strategy normally works ok, but i have had a couple of no-shows.~~
~~e. Tips on Selection and Hitting It Off~~
~~In general you will know in about 5 minutes of talking to a girl. If she is quiet and not a talker then you can be sure you are wasting your time she will sit there as long as she can and get drinks but not be interested in doing anything with you, or if she does go with you she wont be good value.~~
~~As a general rule, 50-60% of the girls are very good value and are a lot of fun to go out with for dinner, drinks, dancing, and after hours entertainment, but some are just downers, try to spot those right away and extract yourself, and accept the fact you wasted money if you actually spent any money on her in the bar, and walk away and look for a new one. this has rarely happened to me as i am good at spotting the duds, but it does happen.~~
~~f. Saving money on ladies drinks~~
~~If you are in one the clubs that is NOT lady drink focused, then this strategy works well. Tell the girl not to drink fast and drink lots of drinks, and you will give her a big tip when you leave, normally 500-700 pesos is good. If you plan to stay in the go-go bar long time with her then this will save you a good bit of money and girl is happy cause she would have to get like 10+ drinks to get same amount on commission. Make sure no one knows or sees you tip though otherwise they will catch on.~~
~~g. Butterfly. Butterfly means to take out several girls from same bar. Don’t do it, you make girls look bad in front of each other (she wasn’t good enough last night, I will get a different one tonight) and causes trouble for you and them. You can ONLY do this when your girl brings other girls along with you when you meet her outside work on later nights, and she invites you to try her friends (normally with her joining both of you or watching). Also remember that many of the girls know girls in other bars from either visiting the bars with their clients/hosts or just from being friends. Manila is a SMALL city so don’t be surprised who knows who in this scene. In general though, as long as you don’t butterfly in front of a girl at the same bar you will not offend her too much.~~
~~h. Your own Private Entertainment. In general, the price for a girl depends upon how much she likes you, her normal going rate, how desperate business is, and how much she normally gets a Japanese client, and how much recurring business you give her or she EXPECTS you to give her in future. Remember, many (not all) of these girls don’t really want to be bargirls in the go-go bars, and in fact many of them want out and are only too happy to find a boyfriend. In fact, many of them eventually do find a foreign boyfriend and settle down you’d be very surprised at the ‘hit rate’ for them. If they have good personality and looks, they will likely not be in the scene much more than a year. The ones that don’t are in it a lot longer and are easy to spot. So, in general, treat them like a girlfriend, not like someone providing a service. Entertain them, buy them food, take them to a disco or to the hard rock café in following days. If you find one you hit off with, within 2 or 3 days you will have a regular. Also, she needs to think you are coming back frequently, this will mean they lower their price expectations for individual meetings in favor of a longer more sustained relationship. This is known by myself a ‘volume selling’ these girls understand principles of good value bundling. So the basics as follows: ~~
~~If she only goes with Japanese and normally refuses others, it will cost you a lot by manila standards for long time all night (3000+ PHP). ~~
~~If she gets Japanese regularly but prefers someone with better English, is fun, dances, and drinks a little, makes jokes, she will be happy with 2000-2500 for first time. These type of girls make their money with Japanese (charge them normally 5000 but they don’t like them). If you spend more than one time with her, she will often be happy with 1500 or 2000 pesos. After a number of times, even 1000 is fine as long as you treat her to drinks and meals when you go out. This one is also most likely to move into your hotel with you and stay for the week when you are there. You may also find you don’t need to give anything but taxi or pocket money if you see them often enough.~~
~~The third type is the one that does not normally go with Japanese under any conditions, these girls have less access to easy cash, so will really need that 2000 pesos per night. If she stays all week though you might prefer to just pay at the end of week, you can maybe save 30% this way, but hey, it is not a lot of money anyway, and she really needs it more than you!~~
~~i. mobile phones. Virtually all these girls have mobiles and will freely give their numbers to you. A few things to remember – if you give her your overseas mobile number or you call her on while in manila (they have calling id even on if your international GSM mobile is roaming) then some of the girls WILL call you on your overseas phone. All girls will want to ‘text’ (SMS) to you, but some operators, notably a few of those in Hong Kong doe not accept incoming SMS from Philippines. Also, it is very expensive for these girls to text you on your international mobile (20 pesos per message). So it is best if you have a second GSM phone that you bring it with you and you buy a prepaid recharge sim card for GLOBE or SMART – you can easily get at a fone card station in glorietta shopping center in Makati. A prepaid sim card will cost you 350 pesos, and you can recharge to as much as you like. The rate for sending a SMS to the girls is 1 peso. Then you will be able to hook up with them outside bar much better and avoid paying barfines. ~~
~~j. taxis. Most cabbies wont turn on meters for foreigners, so you are expected to pay a flat rate. In general you can get ripped off if you ask them the fare, just give them the fare I list in the sections and get out of the taxi., if a cabbie complains tell him to fuck off. In general the fares I suggest are already 2x normal fare, so they are getting a good deal. Ignore any complaints it should be more cause of traffic, cause there is ALWAYS traffic in manila.~~
~~ ~~The Clubs and places to go~~
~~1. Quezon City Karaoke bars. Taxi will cost you a lot, and are risky to take here, get a hotel car and hire it for the night, do not take public taxi here. Hotel cars are 300 peso per hour in most deluxe hotels, minimum two hours. You will likely need them for 3-4 hours cause you spend 45 ,minutes to go there from Makati, and 45 minutes to get back, plus 2-3 hours in the bar. The inevitable mix of karaoke bars is clustered mainly in Quezon city, Quezon City is about 45-60 minutes from Makati depending upon traffic. The karaoke bars here tend to be the best quality bars in Manila. They cater to business people entertaining clients etc. They tend to result in the most expensive evenings one can have in Manila and in general do not provide the best investment for your dollar. The do however in general tend to have good quality entertainers, but how far any of them will go to entertain is very unpredictable. You could end up having a BJ or even getting laid in one of the private VIP rooms, or you may not even be allowed to touch her breast depending upon the girl. A night of 2-4 hours for three people plus a girl each will cost about 10,000-20,000 pesos in most of these places for the total bill. In general you should tip the girl before or during the walk out when you are leaving the place. Normally she will escort you to the door. Do not wait until you are at the door to tip her, and do not tip her when the management is around, do it when you had a little private time, or pass it to her crumpled in your hand when you kiss her goodnight. In general 500 peso tip is adequate assuming you had fun and enjoyed it. If you got nothing, then of course don’t tip. But of course if you get a nothing girl, you should call the staff and change her right away. This is acceptable. note that some girls only like Japanese so check before with mama before you pull her out of the fish bowl. Some of the top places to go are: Classmates, Pegasus, Legends, Infinity. Personally i like Classmates and Pegasus best, they are best quality. Unless you are going for business to entertain a client though, i d suggest skipping karaoke and going straight to other places.
The only way Id suggest going here is if your company will pay the bill. Bar fines to take a girl out of a Quezon city karaoke are about 5000+ pesos, in general I have never done it. SEE SECTION BELOW on bar fines under TRICKS OF THE TRADE.~~There are some cheaper lower quality places near Makati that have karaoke bars, one notable is Pleasure island, it is ok and cheap if you want a karaoke bar with reasonable cost. Expect a bill of 3000 PHP if it is just you for a few hours. I’m not sure what is the bar fines price.~~
~~2. P.Burgoes. Cab will be 100 peso flat from Makati. This is the area of Makati most business travelers discover first, and is the place the hotel drivers will take you unless you ask otherwise. It is close to all the main hotels in Makati, about 5-10 minutes drive unless it is rush hour traffic (normally 6-8:30 pm) then it can take up to 30 minutes. This is a single street (P Burgos) off shooting from Makati avenue. it has a lot of go-go bars on it. This place is the most expensive way to spend an evening in manila after the karaoke bars, HOWEVER it is possible to enjoy yourself here if you know what you are doing, and you are careful and friendly but firm with your spending decisions, It is VERY easy to ripped off, explicitly or implicitly here as the mama-sans who run the bars know exactly how to get money out of you. Read the tips above. Most girls in Burgos will expect a tip of 2500-3000 peso if you take them home, on top of the bar fine.~~
~~Here are some of the more popular or my favorites and the going prices. ~~
~~Bottoms – probably the most popular but also the most ridiculous for prices. A bar fine is 3000 pesos, more than you would pay a girl in most places. The girl will also expect the same amount at very least, so your night will cost you 6000 pesos plus what ever drinks you buy. My opinion is the girls in bottom are no better or different than other places, and in fact you can get better elsewhere. I find they also tend to be a big more older than other in the age range of 22-25 for many. The girls are almost all speaking excellent English and are good sports, but they are experts at draining money out of you on drinks in the bar. In this bar, if you sit in the booths along the walls, after a few drinks with the girls, you may be lucky to have one of those that will do blow job on the spot, no extra money required, or she may do a lesbo show with other girl on your lap. Id say about 40% of the girls will do these things there for you after you have bought 4-5 ladies rounds. If you are not into taking someone home, this is a good alternative and fun, just be careful on buying drinks. Drinks here are 300 pesos each. Most or all the girls here will go on bar fine, but most would not go for all-nighters. Waitresses and mama are not TOO pushy compared to others, so I it is ok to say no for buying for girls sometimes. But make sure you buy some or you will sit alone. Advice, do not sit in the middle, sit along the walls, or if you just want to watch the show, sit near the stage and off to the left side, this is near the ladies changing room, you will see them all as they go in and out. The place has around 80-100 girls. Girls will let you strip them here, suck them and finger them in the booths along the wall.~~
~~~~Jools – one of the long running places, features a cover charge of 150 pesos which is the fee to see the show. They put on an excellent cabaret show every hour and it is a much more high class place than all the others on the strip. This is the only place you would probably consider bringing your girlfriend to. The bar fine was 2600 last time I was there, but not all the girls will go out. Many of the girls here do quite well on drinks as they tend to be more educated and chatty – management seems to go for those types of girls and they bring in those who want a companion but not necessarily a take home girl for the night. Drinks are expensive also, around 275 pesos if I recall. Mama san is VERY pushy for buying drinks and girls are experts at chugging their drinks, so watch your rounds carefully. The place has around 50-70 girls, but most are not dressed in costumes, only plain clothes. No stripping of girls, sucking or fingering here, it is a very clean place. Chat and heavy petting only.~~
~~Montanas – Montanas is the BJ capital of the street, and is next door to Jools. Sit in a secluded sofa booth and you will be bombarded with 3-4 girls plus the mama. The mama will not offer you very much privacy with the girls until you basically threaten to take your business elsewhere. The mama is EXTREMELY pushy and it makes for this to not be a very pleasant place to relax and enjoy the girls company. In fact the only thing I can say about this place is, if you want to make friends meet girls and chat with them over drinks, don’t come here cause the mamas are WAY to aggressive and push the girls to be aggressive too. On the other hand, if you are willing to be enough of an asshole to tell mama to get lost, and you are pigheaded insistent that you are only buying for one girl, after about 30 minutes of harassment, all will leave you with your girl, then you close the curtains to your booth, buy her drinks and let her start sucking. Bar fines are ridiculous here as well, 3000 pesos. It seems that many of the girls here live in places owned by the bar and they are in virtual slavery, they cannot go out for a night off. They must work all nights. I and my friends have however had excellent BJ here, so it is worth trying if you like the thrill of the scene this bar offers. If you manage yourself and mama right, you should be able to get in and out of this place in about 1 hour, and have had a BJ lasting up to 20 minutes, and have dropped around 1500 pesos, suggest you get 500 peso tip to the girl before you leave. Ladies drinks are 1500 pesos. Avoid a girl in this bar called Andrea (real name Adora), she is a thief and cant be trusted. Know several folks who she robbed LOTS of money from. The place has 15 girls on a slow night, and up to 30 on a good night. Some Girls will let you strip them here, suck them and finger them. If you want a fantastic BJ, ask for miles.~~~~
~~Cuddles – Next to Montanas. Cuddles is the place where I and my friend had the unfortunate experience of being ripped off. We were all having a good time, drinking and buying girls drinks freely, and the five of us each got a table so we could be alone with our 1-2 girls, and since we all left individually and settled our own tabs individually we thought all was ok, the last guy left an hour after all of us and the bar said none of us paid and stiffed him for a whole bill, to the tune of over 1000 USD. Drinks are about 250 pesos and bar fine is 2600. suggest you stay away if in big group as you cannot trust the mama and the staff to keep your bill honest. If you go in small group and carefully manage your bill and settle together, I see no trouble however , as have been there many times. Lighting is not great so sometimes you may not really see what you are getting. Have about 30 girls on a night. Girls will let you strip them here, suck them and finger them.~~
~~Fire and ice – this is sister bar of cuddles and is upstairs on top of cuddles. Many of the girls work in both bars. Has about 20 girls on a night, prices the same, warning is the same. The mamas shift between the two places. It seems more relaxed and less pressure up here cause business is much slower. If you want to drink and feel up a girl, suck her tits and finger her, this place is great cause it is REALLY dark. Also wont cost you a small fortune. Girls will let you strip them here, suck them and finger them. If you like big knockers, look for Imee. If you like perky breasts, ask for angel or bea.~~~~
~~Go Bananas – had a blow job in plain sight of the dance floor. Girl quality seems poor, prices seemed cheaper for drinks, I think about 220 pesos If I recall, but this place is not busy at all don’t know about bar fine, only went there once. Across street from cuddles. Got a blow job in here from a few girls, you may want to ask for Yael, good mouth skills in the bar for two drinks only (but not overly pretty).~~
~~Foxys – never stayed, only ducked in to look, it is a big disco, and lots of people, looks like a lot of good quality girls, but based on flash and glamour of place , expect it is expensive. Behind Cuddles.~~
~~Bandidos – this place is a hidden gem, it is downstairs, across the street from bottoms. The staff and mama are not aggressive and bar fine is ok. Ladies Drinks are priced at 250 peso. Bar fine is 1000 peso plus 3 ladies drinks for that girl. So your time chatting her up counts against bar fine. No secluded corners or couches, so no funny stuff goes on in this place, you take it outside. The quality of girls is good, and the music is fun, this is a fun place that gets moderately busy but the choice of girls is always good cause it seems most people who go here are regulars living in manila and they don’t do take outs, so the girls are not bar fined too often. Personally, this is my favorite. About 40 girls on a good night. Giselle is the crazy dancer here and is very entertaining to watch, you will spot her and know her by name without asking. Both to die for Is provided by Beth, look for her. Strictly no stripping the girls here, take it all outside. All the girls go out here.~~
~~Rascals – this place is also moderately busy, is a bit smaller than Bandidos, and is next door to it. It features about 20-25 girls on a good night. The music is fun like bandidos, and it also has some secluded couches and corners. Girls will let you strip them here, suck them and finger them in the dark corners. Drinks are about 300 pesos, bar fine is 3000 peso. Again, expensive place, girls in costumes and plain clothes working the floor. Expect to be mobbed if you sit down first, so walk the floor and pick your preferred if you go here.~~
~~Fridays – Fridays is across street from Jools, I never spent much time there, don’t know the game.~~
~~Ivory – I only spent one visit in ivory, I do not like the layout of the place, very hard to get a good view of the stage or all the girls from any angle. Secluded couches are not secluded enough, and quality of girls seemed mixed. Many people do like it though, so maybe I never gave it a fair shake. Again, I think prices are high, ladies drink at 300 peso. Don’t know bar fine, but expect it to be 3000 or so.~~
~~Tickles – Tickles is a sister bar of bottoms is located on a side street just behind Rascals. It is very small and features maybe 10 girls on a given night. Never tried the prices, but being part of bottoms, suspect the prices are the same, 300 peso per lady drink and 3000 peso bar fine. The corner seats are secluded and the girls will readily offer BJ in the sofa corners.~~
~~Wild West – wild west is sister bar to bandidos, and features the same low harassment type of environment. It is VERY small and compressed, but features a lot of girls, in a place 1/5 the size of bandidos, it still has about 30 girls. Good uniforms too. Girls are fun and bouncy, same music. There is a lot of room to sit at stage an oogle, and ladies drinks are 250 or so. Bar fine is 1000 peso plus three ladies drinks. This one is a thumbs up too. Good prices, girls and music. This one is located on Makati avenue, and if you turn into p. burgos street you will miss it cause you cannot see it until you PASS p. burgoes. It is basically across the street from shakeys pizza. Strictly no stripping the girls here, take it all outside. All the girls go out here.~~
~~Café Mogambo – Café , mogambo is also a sister bar to wild west and bandidos. Prices are same, and good value, the girls are a lot of fun here too, and the music is mixed at times. Girls do stage shows less frequently, This place is popular to take meals and is most busy from 6-9 pm in the evening. Try the Shepherds pie, the best anywhere in Asia I have gone, don’t eat anything else here. This is a great place to start your evening. If you want to play with great boobs, ask for Elaine Susanne or Shane. (Suzanne doesn’t do Bj if you take her home by the way) If you want a pretty smile, cut ass, and pleasant conversation from mixed flipino-chinese ask for clarisse. Café Mogambo is on a side street from p. burgos, immediately after right turning from Makati avenue onto p. burgoes, Mogambo is the next right. Has about 30 girls, some of whom are not so great and need a few months in the gym! Strictly no stripping the girls here, take it all outside. All the girls go out here.~~
~~Rogues – Rogues is at the very beginning of the p. burgoes street, and is literally right next to the pizza hut. It is upstairs place, with downstairs occupied by Hollywood (no experience there). Rogues features a cheap bar fine of 800 pesos if you buy girl a couple of drinks. Drinks are also cheap, I think 250 peso, but half price before 10 pm. That means you can get away with a really cheap night there if you leave before 10 and take your girl with you to bar hop. It is owned by same folks as LA café. Seems to have mixed quality girls however. Most of the best girls are in plain clothes, which is reverse to most other bars. If you like cute and fun try Michelle (who is Clarisses cousin from Mogambo) and Ivey, they are roommate and very nice girls. Strictly no stripping the girls here, take it all outside. All the girls go out here.~~
~~Summary: ~~best value for money: Bandidos, Wild West, Café Mogambo~~best show : Jools~~best place BJ: Montanas~~best place to pretend you are in a disco picking up: Foxys~~best place to spend lots of money: bottoms, cuddles, rascals~~~~
~~~~3. Roxas Boulevard – (ask taxi to go to the bars nears Traders Hotel)~~
~~Roxas blvd is about 15 minutes away from P.Burgoes, and is a mixture of a few high end karaoke bars catering to Japanese at crazy prices, strip clubs, and lower cost go-go bars than those in Burgos. Car fare from Makati or Burgos, about 100 peso.~~
~~~~East Asia – East Asia is a strip club with stage show, single girl dances at a time. You can also go to a fishbowl and select girls to sit with you. Ladies drinks are 300 peso+ and barfines can be in excess of 5000 peso from what I hear. On Friday or Saturday they charge you a cover of 650 peso also. Personally I think this place is a rip off. But if you want strip show, this is where to go~~
~~Chaos – low pressure go-go bar, about 1 minute walk from East Asia. This place has two lady drink prices, normal and special of the week. The special of the week is 300 peso and the normal lady drink is 185 peso. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN SERVICE FOR THIS PRICE. The girl get a stuffed cuddly toy for and a fancier drink, but that is it. So but normal drink, if you like girl, buy her one special of the week to show her some attention before you leave. Bar fine is 900 peso. Girls are mixed but most are very fun and more than up for a good time bar hopping and clubbing. Try Rica, Kelly or Kate, they are very nice. Good place to spend the evening. Generally the girls here will be happy with a personal tip of 2000 peso if you take them home. Sometimes they will be happy with even 1500 peso if they like you a lot. Strictly no stripping the girls here, take it all outside. All the girls go out here.~~
~~Visions – 5 minute from Chaos, similar to Chaos, music is not as good though, prices are same, low pressure. Good choice for economical evening. Strictly no stripping the girls here, take it all outside. All the girls go out here.~~
~~Summary: best value for money: Chaos, Visions, ~~~~
~~4. EDSA complex.~~
~~This is a purpose built building on the main road to EDSA, it is about 10 minutes from the bars on Roxas boulevard. All cabbies know this place, if they pretend not to know, then get out. Cab fare from Makati or p. burgoes about 150 peso. From Roxas boulevard is 100 peso.~~
~~This place is also called the SHOPPING MALL by many of us. It is a building with a number of go-go bars, all doing the same thing. These bars are not like those in Burgos, where they bar owners want you to stay and drink - these bars make their money on volume of bar fines. They try and get people to take as many girls out of there as possible. So you will almost instantly asked by mama after you buy a first lady drink if you want to bar fine the girl if you are not sure just nod and say we’ll see later. Ladies Drinks in all bars are 185 peso, and bar fine is 1000 peso. Sometimes on a busy night, the mama will insist you buy the girl one lady drink before you bar fine her, sometimes mama will not ask. Age range is mostly 18-21, but beware, there are some here under 18, in fact, there are some as young as 13 or 14. if you doubt her age, then trust your instinct and move on, don’t get something under 18, you may be asking for trouble if hotel makes a police call on you - it rarely happens, but it has been known. As well sometimes an underage girl is working with the police to catch those who buy them young, and police show up and demand a big payment or they will arrest you,. If they arrest you, you will BE on TV and front page of newspapers next day or two. ~~
~~Do not let the above scare you, just trust your instincts and stay away from those you even suspect of being under 18 or 19. ~~
~~~~Firehouse. This is THE place to pull from, in general best quality and biggest choice of quality. Many of the girls are a lot of fun. Only a couple of underage here from what I know, and I know this place the best and know a lot of the girls here really well. They confirm to me there are only a handful of girls under age, 16-17. if you want to bar hop, save this place for last, cause chances are 90% you will prefer to do your bar fine from here. At the prices and quality in this place, you may want to take 2 or 3 home. Strictly no stripping the girls here, take it all outside. All the girls go out here. 80-100 girls on a good night.~~
~~Pitstop – also good quality, second only to firehouse. Same prices. Generally seems to be mostly of legal age girls. 30 girls on normal night.~~
~~My Fair – mixed quality. About 50-70 girls. Beware, this place seems to be worst for young girls, you will readily pick out the 13,14 years old ones here. Be very careful when you pick from this place. even those that look of age may only be 16 or 17. same prices as firehouse.
~~~~Jambalaya – smaller place, lower quality of girls, seem to fatter and only about 15 girls. Same prices.~~
~~Cotton Club. Largest place in floor space, but very mixed quality, and potentially some girls too young to be here, be careful here too on age. Same prices. About 60-70 girls.~~
~~Sambia – same prices, about 25 girls. Ok quality.~~
~~Casino – third best after Pitstop in quality and choice. About 20-30 girls. Same prices~~
~~Summary: firehouse firehouse firehouse. If you want something different go to casino or Pitstop. Use all the other places for warm ups if you will spend the night here ogling. ~~
~~~~5. Freelancing~~
~~There are few other places where girls freelance. Some of the girls freelancing are from the bars above, but want to take a night off from the bar and mama cause they need a break form the pressure and are in a hunting mood themselves. The most common are as follows:~~
~~a. Hard rock Café, Glorietta Shopping Mall, Makati. Gets going most nights around 11 pm, and features live music every night. 300 peso to get in, gives you two drinks. The bar girls love the hard rock, if you take a bar girl out and want to go out with her, instead of just going home and doing the dirty, she will want to go to the hard rock café 9/10 times. The bands are normally very good, and the dance music is good too. Dancing starts after 11 pm. Freelancers who come unaccompanied and are looking to hunt for a guy of their own choice for the night are found all around the bar at the very back. On a very busy night, they will line up along the wall by the DJ and cashier and watch the band also. You can make eye contact with those on the wall by walking to bathroom and looking at each girl in the eye. The girls whose eyes light up and smile will be game to hunt. BEWARE, normal girls out for a night will also be here, so be careful on your approach. Of course, it is quite easy to pick up normal non working girls too (if you are white and ok looking that is). The freelancers sitting all around the bar will be mixed quality and vary every night, some are bar girls and some are true freelancers. I personally STAY AWAY from full freelancers cause they do not get the mandatory weekly health check up from their bar’s doctor like all bar girls, so there is higher risk of trouble. The girls will want you to buy them tequila 9/10 times. This will set you back 200 peso per shot.~~b. LA Café. This is in Ermitae, in Malati, about 20 minute from Makati, pay 150 peso to cabbie. This is 95% freelance place with some of the girls who are skipping work from edsa complex also. Most of the freelancers will tell you they work in EDSA complex when in fact they don’t. This is cause they know guys wont pick up freelancers in LA café. This place can be dangerous cause there are a lot of local freelancers, who may have disease or may rob you or drug you, and you will not be able to find them again since they are not bar girls, and you cant go to the bar to press charge or confront them. Best advice, only take an LA café girl if you already know her from EDSA or Roxas blvd or Makati. Otherwise, bring your own girls here. This place has two floors, up and down stair, downstairs is a pub and pool hall ,upstairs is dancing with band, can be quite good on thursday-Saturday night, ok for Sunday-wed nights. I usually bring 2-3 girls with me and party with them here all night. Booze is dirt cheap for you and the girls. You can walk out of this place with your three girls piss drunk and only have spent 1000 pesos and also had some snack food! If you do take a freelancer here, you can pay 1000 or 1500 peso, but no more. Do not walk in the neighborhood , it is very seedy and dangerous, get cab drop you to the door and pick up at door.
~~c. Orange –disco In Makati, rocks on wed, -Saturday nights, many many girls will like you to take them here, but don’t go before midnight, it is dead. You will find off duty bar girls here, but few ‘true’ freelancers. If she says she works in a bar here, she is most likely telling the truth.~~d. SomewhereElse – in back of the inter continental hotel, used to be called Euphoria, main night for this disco is Wednesday night, packed at 1130 pm. Lots of locals and off duty bar girls can also be found. Careful how you approach here, assume all girls are locals just out for good time unless indicated.~~
~~Street girls – stay away, most of them are lady boys or have diseases and got kicked out of the bars.~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ (Review # 6398)
Makati City Escort Review Dated Added: Sun Jul 07 2002 Submitted by: KnutI can highly recommend Jools, very clean place with really stunning girls of mostly rather European than Asian appearance, Excellent English spoken by most of them. Good music and a nice dance floor with go go-dancers in the background. Little dance shows from time to time. A beer costs you 2 dollars plus an initial 3 dollars for the shows. Ladies' drinks at 5 dollars each are expensive but some of the girls are really worth it. Buy a girl two drinks and pay another 50 dollars and you can take her out. (1 dollar = 50 Pesos). ~~~~Contrary to many bars in Thailand nobody tries to cheat you as you have to sign each and every bill.~~If you want it wilder you have to go to the smaller and somewhat seedier bars. At Cuddles three girls dragged me into a dark corner and had my shirt and pants open in no time. Then my mouth was full of tongues and nipples for the next hour or so and they headed for my dick. Not a cheap hour, however, 3 drinks each at 6 dollars plus some tips added up to 70 dollars.~~ (Review # 5721)
Escort Review Dated Added: Sun Jun 23 2002 Submitted by: bottoms haterWas in bottoms a few weeks ago, real drag...girls are looking only at their watch when you offer them a drink, I asked them about it and was told they only are allowed to sit with a guest for about 10 minutes....if they stay longer they have to pay fine to the owner and or mama san.....what is this for slavery.....or their opinion for rip off. I visited many more bars in Makati Burgos but not one like this, I prefer rogues, mogambo, ivory, rascals etc. Then I prefer the days in mabini at least there you were not ripped of so much as in this bottoms place, then there bar fine price no wonder all the girls want to sneak out as they do not get costumers who want to pay and they need the money, they were welcome to me every time they came and always I gave them 3000 to 4000 pesos at least they were happy.......hope they did not give anything to their mamasan but I do not think so as all of them disliked her....... anyway I can not recommend a rip off place like this to anyone their are better place to go..... (Review # 5646)
Makati City Escort Review Dated Added: Fri Mar 22 2002 Submitted by: filipinaReally liked Bottoms Club on P. Burgos Street. Although the prices were high (P3000 for the bar fine), I found the best looking girls working here. You can't go wrong. ~~~~Also, Rascals and GoGo Banana's had awesome looking bar girls that really looked fine. ~~~~An interesting place to frequent late at night is the Filling Station, located right above the Bottoms Niteclub. Many of the bar girls will come here after work (around 3:00am to 4:00am) to have a late night snack, and also try to get a quick bar fine before going home. You might be able to pick up a bar girl here for cheap - maybe P2000 for the evening. BEWARE - there are Billy Boy's - Girly Boys - or whatever you want to call them. They will lie to you and tell you they are a girl so beware. ~~~~ ~~ (Review # 5194)
Makati City, Philippines Escort Review Dated Added: Tue Mar 12 2002 Submitted by: filipinaJust got back from the P. Burgos Street bars in Makati City, and I have to say that there are tons of good looking filipina women all over this place. I checked out Jools, Go-Go Banana's, Bottoms, Fridays, Cuddles, Ivory Bar, Papillion, Cafe Mogambo's, Rascals, Tickles, Kasy Bar, and High Heels. Most places, minus a few charged P3000 or aroun $60US for a barfine. This is quite high for the Philippines, but this is the high end business district of the Philippines, so the bars charge more for the girls. Tips for the girls range from P2500 to P5000 and depending on the girl can mean short time or long time. Make sure the girl completely understands the arrangements before barfining her or you'll get screwed. ~~~~As for the bars, I really liked Bottoms Niteclub, Rascals and GoGo Bananas. These three clubs, in my opinion, were the top shelf girls. Bottoms had some real stunners, while Rascals and GoGo Bananas had a lot of hot young hard bodied filipinas. ~~~~Check out http://www.young-makati.com for our recommendations and picks for hot bar girls to meet. The travel section is part of the website and includes reveiws (like this one) on all the bars. ~~~~Makati is still a great place to go for beautiful women, albeit the price is substantially higher than all the other places in the Philippines.~~ (Review # 5149)
Makati Massage Parlor Dated Added: Fri Sep 21 2001 Submitted by: HornySquireI am a local living in the Makati. Recently, I visited your site and decided to try some places. First, I went to the Old Imperial Bath House near P. Burgos Street. Upon entering the place, a nice lady escorts you to a glass wall where you can pick a masseuse. They charge about p1,500 for the room and you are immediately sent to your designated room to wait for your choice to arrive. She (Jenny) arrived in 5 minutes and requested me to strip and shower. She joins me and we have a good wash before proceeding to the massage. After a good twenty minutes of massage, she asks if I would like anything special. After a few minutes of haggling, I agreed to pay her p2,000 and she stripped down to her panties. She gave me a more sensual massage and proceded to give me a blow job as well as a condom for sex. The sex was excellent and I highly recommend the place. Jenny was great, simply great. Another place to go is Topaz massage near Yakal Street in Makati. This place is slightly more expensive and the girls less pretty. Overall, not a bad place, but more expensive. (Review # 4344)
Manila Makati Strip Club Review Dated Added: Tue Apr 24 2001 Submitted by: AnonHave stayed at a hotel near P Burgos Street, where there is a lot of action. Bought a girl out from the Crossroads Club that cost as a total all in Filipino 1500 for one night. ~~~~Also went down to the Pasay area where there are lots of clubs, a bit cheaper here. one night cost me 1200 Filipino.~~~~I believe it may be possible to get one for free if prepared to wait around until the early hours when the clubs shut, then tip the girl a little for herself, then buy her a nice American breakfast in the morning at the hotel. Good luck. (Review # 3431)
Makati Escort Review Dated Added: Sun Dec 24 2000 Submitted by: RenfieldThe scene is changing rapidly in the Philippines. The rates are climbing as fast as the Peso is devaluated. Currently the bar owners are taking advantage of this and are soaking it to customers. A Girl drink in most clubs is now about 350 peso ($7) and typically you have to pay about 2,500 to 5,000 peso in bar fines if you want the girl to leave. If you are spreading it around, forget it. Each girls drinks only count towards that girl. The two worst rip-off joints are Tickles and Bottoms. They (all on the strip) claim they are the best. Mediocre is the norm compared to state-side. The girls will want between 2,000 and 3,000 peso and a little special treatment. By the time you are done you can drop 10K pesos ($200) to get laid. You are better off taking off to Quezon avenue and renting a street girl for about 1,000 pesos (for mama-san) and 1,000 pesos for the girl. Take your own condoms. The local ones aren't reliable. Don't expect head it is foreign to them and they really object. Only a fool would give head, the disease rate is climbing. And expect less and less respect. They are open about ripping Kano's off. I actual speak Tagalog but I don't let on until the right moment. If you are going out and don't speak Tagalog take a trusted Pinoy with you. It cost you 2,000 to get him laid as well but at least you wont be ripped by the girls, and it earns big points with local business partners.I actually use this as method of improving my working relations with difficult locals. Taking the bastards out, getting drunk with them and paying for favors goes a long way. Even if they are married. The locals all screw around, but can't normally afford it. The Filipina (wives) runs the household and usually controls finances, so even if they make good money, the local guys cant get their hands on enough to screw around.Remember the girls may be pretty, but they are still whores. Don't leave money or credit cards around. They will snatch them on the way out and max them out in a couple hours. I wouldn't give them anymore respect than the street trash back home. (Review # 2891)
Makati Other Dated Added: Thu Nov 02 2000 Submitted by: Bill MalakiUnder the heading: "You Learn Something New Every Day" -- there's the girls who put a condom on you with their mouth. I always thought that was just a neat little extra some of the girls toss in just to add to the fun...the fact is, this little extra is something these girls learn to do when they wind up with some clown who refuses to wear a condom. (I always use a condom -- they help me extend a quickie into an encounter that your lady will talk about for weeks.) I asked a girl to show me how it is done -- if I had not known what she was doing, I would not have known a thing. She explained that they can put a condom on a guy and he thinks he is getting a better-than-average blow job. When it is safely in place, the girl mounts him quickly and says something like: "I must have you inside me NOW..." Be sure to take your own U.S.-made condoms to the Philippines because the ones you commonly find there are made in Japan, Taiwan or Thailand and they don't fit the average American dick. (Review # 2655)
Manila Escort Review Dated Added: Sun Oct 29 2000 Submitted by: PatrickI just returned from 10 days in Manila. Makati is simply the name of the downtown business district and a good location. P. Burgos St. is the 2 block long nightclub strip. (Ermita, the old nightclub area is totally gone and just a crap area now) I followed the two previous excellent reviews of clubs etc posted by OZ and Dave and they were very detailed and 100% accurate so I won't repeat what they have already stated. (Nice job guys) All of the clubs are clean and the prices about the same. Cost to buy a gal a drink is $5.00 To take them out of the bar before closing is about $40 (the gals don't get this, the bar owner does) and they ask for another $40 for themselves. We had the money so we didn't nickel dick with them over a few bucks. Many gals will just come to your hotel after the bar closes at 2:00AM so you can save that bar fine if you want. We stayed at the Century Citadel Inn and got nice 1 bedroom units for $42. daily. (Single rooms are cheaper) Right on the strip, nice and friendly staff with a 24 hr bar/restaurant/room service. Book it through Asia Travel at www.asiatravel.com/index.html I also recommend the room service massage from Asmara Massage Service. We each did it twice and the ladies were just as classy as any in the clubs. Their time is $10 per hour with or without massage and $20-$25 for the full deal. Actually a good deal. Try it, if the gal is not your type, then at least you'll get a great hour massage and go from there. Manila has legal gambling casino's at the Holiday Inn, Heritage House and Casino Filipina all within a short taxie ride. If you're interested in World War 11 history, take the all day tour of Corregador Island for only $42. It was well worth it and a real dose of history. The Pearl Harbor of Asia and where General MacArthur was based. Manila's air is very polluted so if you're looking for sun and some beautiful locations to go along with the nite life, you might only want to spend a couple of days in Makati/Manila and then go elsewhere like Cebu etc. But we're from Hawaii so we didn't care about that. Note: The Filipino people are a friendly and happy go- lucky group. The economy however is terrible for the locals, many of them like the hotel staff etc. only earn about $200-$300US a month. So a 50 pesos ($US1.00) or more tip is a lot to them. And please treat them with a little returned courtesy and don't be the ugly/loud mouth foreigners......A little goes a long way there. Have a good time and enjoy!!!!~~Patrick (Review # 2622)
Makati Swing Club Dated Added: Thu Aug 17 2000 Submitted by: BeelA couple of observations about the scene on P. Burgos Street in Makati: others reviews of Mocambo, Bandito and Gerinomo are dead on. No pressure and gangs of fun! These clubs are all owned by the same people and the rules are the same -- bar fines are not very negotiable (1500 pesos is standard) and you make your own deal with the lady (and be sure to treat them like ladies). They are mostly young, cute and they can be fun OUT of the sack too! Be a sport...pop for a few ladies drinks (the girls get a piece of the tab for the drinks, but they don't cut a cut of the bar fine). Join in the games and take your time with your selection because if you act like a gentleman, you will find that the girl is willing to spend some of her personal time with you -- not just an overnighter. Find one that dresses well and you can take her to lunch or dinner at some of the classier hotels. See if she is up for an excursion out of Manila -- to Tagaytay, Pagsanjan Falls or even an overnight trip down to Cebu in a private cabin on a ferry (about 7800 persos, round-trip for 2 includes meals) or go shopping (a small, thoughtful gift will be appreciated...a small purse with a US$20 tucked inside will yield incredible results.)Of major importance: the girls are going to insist that you use a condom. Use one -- aside from the obvious problem with STDs, the last thing she needs is an unwanted pregnancy. You'll be gone soon enough and she's left with "your" problem. This is a Catholic country and in addition to the shame of it all, she'll be out of work in a place with few opportunities. And to save you a lot of hassle, bring your own condoms to the Philippines. Most of the condoms you'll find there are made in Thailand, Taiwan or Japan and they are too small for the average American dick! We finally found some Trojans and Magnums at the Intercon and the Dusit Nikko hotels. Most of the girls I was with gave head without an argument, but they were reluctant to let me lick their pussy. I really like getting a woman off that way...you have to tell them it is important to you and they'll give in -- and then when she has a couple gut-busting orgasms, she's yours until you get on the plane -- and when you return, she'll meet your flight! (Review # 2183)
Makati Escort Review Dated Added: Mon Jul 31 2000 Submitted by: LBFM FanStaying in Makati on business at the Millenium Plaza, P.Burgos St was only a short walk away and so I got to visit several of the bars whilst I was there. Mogambo is a good place to go: the bar is in the centre of the room and the girls all stay behind the bar until you express an interest, then they will either sit on the bar or come round your side. Didn't take a girl out from there, but the food is good!Went to the Jungle Room, where the girls are much more forward - as soon as you walk in you will be grabbed by two or three girls who will sit down with you and start fondling you. You will be asked to buy drinks for them all, but they won't be upset if you single one out. I ended up with two girls, one called Fe who was slim and about 5'4" and her friend (name forgotten) who was about 5'0". Had a good time, and Fe asked if I would like them to come back to my hotel. I could either barfine them out, or they would come after their shift at 3am. Told them to come later, left about midnight and went back to the hotel. They had told me to tell the hotel guard to expect them, as otherwise they would not be allowed in. Was woken up at about 3.30 by the guard ringing up to tell me I had visitors. They came up to the room and after an initial period of shyness they got undressed and got on the bed with me. They weren't a double act: whilst I had sex with Fe her friend stayed in the bathroom, and then they swapped over. Both were good fucks, but Fe was definitely the better of the two. They both then slept on the bed with me until it was time for me to go to work. Gave them P2000 each, and Fe gave me her phone number before they left. A few days later I phoned Fe and asked if she was free for the evening. She came to the hotel around 8pm and we went out to get something to eat, then she took me round several of the other clubs in Makati ending up at Jools. Then back to the hotel for another great blow job and fuckfest. Recommended to all. (Review # 2060)
Manila Travel Report Dated Added: Fri Jan 28 2000 Submitted by: ozHi guys, just got back from the phils. This was my first time, but it won't be my last; visited Jan. of 2000. The best action is on p. Burgos st.; all of the bars are walking distance (I stayed at the century citadel) and all are lots of fun with lots of girls who will treat you very nice, so treat them well in return. As for the hotel you stay at, I recommend the century citadel; they didn't give me a problem with having girls up to my room, the room rates were very reasonable, the rooms were clean, and the location was perfect in that I never needed a taxi to get to the bars. Now as for the bars, all I can say is wow! I had a great time everywhere I went but I do recommend some a little more, although you cant really go wrong anywhere. ~~The first place I went to was cafe mugambo; it was around 5 in the afternoon and I dropped in for dinner. The food was good, but lets face it, I'm not there to eat food. The girls are low pressure, which was cool and they are willing to sit back while you make a selection, which beats the hell out of getting gang tackled. The music is great and the girls even do a little dance number to certain songs which was pretty cool. The girls can be barfined for approx. 8 Or 10 drinks and they will stay all night if you want. Final review: one of my favoritesThe next night was geronimo shot bar; another great time. Low pressure place and the girls were gorgeous. Same prices and same great service as mugambo; the girls had the best costumes here though, the place had an old west Indian theme and the girls costumes were kind of a pocahontas thing that was very sexy; you can even get up and dance with the girls which was a blast (imagine being the pole in a strip bar at home). Buy mama san a few drinks and she will bring the best girls over. Final review: great placeThe next night I went to banditos; this place is owned by the same guys who own mugambos and geronimos, so the system is the same. There is more of an emphasis on dancing girls here and that is cool. There are also girls roaming around the bar in cute little black dresses looking for drinks but they will not pressure you. I felt at home at this place and will definitely be back. Final review: if you liked the mugambos and geronimos, you will like this place as well.Another bar is bottoms; it is on the same strip. There is more pressure here, you will be surrounded the second you walk in and that may not necessarily be a bad thing depending on your tastes. I however do not like being ganged up on however; the prices here are higher than the other places and you have to watch your bill. You could easily spend a couple hundred dollars here before you find your mrs. Right for the evening, so be careful. There are not as many girls here, but the are mostly 7 to 9s. Final review: good time, but you pay through the nose.I also went to rouges; maybe I hit them on the wrong nite, but this was strictly a one beer and out place. It was expensive and I had an ugly chic that refused to leave me the hell alone. The mama san was a little too pushy as well. I thought if I ignored them, they would leave me alone to have my beer and keep looking, but no such luck here. Final review: skip it.A few final notes on makati: the dollar goes a long way here guys; it is a long haul from the usa (midwest) but it is totally worth it. My only regret was that I could only spend 6 nights here. I only reviewed 5 bars, but there are plenty more on this little street. At the time I visited the phil. Peso was trading at 39 or 40 to 1 us dollar, what a bargain! The girls here get a little possessive and they seem to be looking for a way out (that means you are the way out)but that seems understandable. These girls will treat you with love, respect and not try to haggle you to the last dollar, so treat them well, they deserve it. Overall, this was one of the best vacations I've ever had and I will return as soon as my finances permit. If you want to know what it feels like to be the biggest stud in town, try this place out, these girls cant get enough of you.~~ (Review # 1406)

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